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Worlock
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posted 11-09-1999 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Worlock     
Opportunity never knocks at the door,
It pounds on the door, usually at an ungodly hour.

...ong!
Huh wha..att snor......yawn
"News Flash: Tangos have Taken over the east coast"

Holy shit fell asleep again in front of the damn box, and the network gamers are after the East again.
What for? they tried this last week and could not grow rice in Boston!! geeeswizz.
Hee Hee I'll just feed them some bad shell fish _ Hmm does this month have an "R" in its name
Click click clackity clickity clack--kkk It does now-- clickity clackity clackity clickity ka-clack

BingaBonga-bongaBunga!!
Dang someone is tired of living, ringing my door bell at 3AM
"What the fu..."

MY oldest and dearest friend says, "Here, hold this"

"Uh ...,. Ok ", as I look at 5 gal glass bottle with a gallon or two of milk shake in it.

My Partner says."remember those people I told you about, with the 115 bottles of E"

"Yeah sure I 'member them,", I reply.
"Well they want you cook the stuff up, those other dudes sat on it five days and don't know what they, are doing"

Greedy I says, " 3am emergencies the price went up to 50%"

Partner says ,"Well I can take it back then"

Thinking for 1/2 a second " Sit down tell me da story, while I wake up" Snnnooorrrrtttttt
He unloads the dreary details

"So what your saying is they gave you:
450 grams of semi processed E
1-1/2 pounds of RP,
3 pounds of I2
and you have it all with you, NOW! and this is it?
115 bottles of - 120s - 60 mg right?
When was the last time you did any math?
And I get a third, why that is 150 grams 4 oz no that's 5 ozers.
Your math, but you better check the numbers again my friend !!"

My deal, "In addition, I want the 5gallon jug, all the RP, and all the I2, fair enough?? And they will get what they plan on, kewl?!!!

"yup, sounds good to me ,,,.. that's the way I see it, too ", says partner

An hour later after slaving over the Buchner, Adding a lye solution , big clumps of white shit come screaming up to the top of the separatory funnel
Partner Says " hey what is that shit?"

Replying politely I say, , "That is the E, my good friend"

"duh, how did you do that so quick ?" asked partner

"It is one those Hive things, you know Bee lore , You wouldn't understand"

"Partner remarks, " Wow, sure looks like a Lot"

"Heee heee", I says, "Here take this down and boil off the fluids, and use the fan so it don't catch fire."

Well you can guess the rest of the story,
True? I suppose, It is, I can't admit to anything,
except it seemed to be a great story especially for a slow Monday.

100 bottles @ 7.2 grams a bottle = 720 gms
_10 bottles @ 7.2 grams a bottle = _72 gms
__5 bottles @ 7.2 grams a bottle = _36 gms
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115 bottles = 828 gms
828 x 90 % = 738
but dem dudes spilled some of it,
600 x 50% = 300gms right on da button, says I..

manic
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posted 11-09-1999 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manic     
I can feel for ya.

Goooaaal.

dwarfer
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posted 11-10-1999 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dwarfer     
Damn you are good, Worlock. I'm sure I woulda found that they had spilled at least 75%.

When you gonnna share tht last arcane knowledge about de waxing??

Yours in efficient processing,
dwarfie

Android
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posted 11-10-1999 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Android     
You definitely are a wonderful storyteller, my friend!

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"There is no god. For we have killed him. You, and I, my fuhrer."
HAIL SPITLER!


Worlock
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posted 11-10-1999 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Worlock     
Yeah that's what I'm wondering,
how do you spill that much, or where would you spill it, so that it becomes history.
Even the sink, you might consider removing the trap.
Carpet, linoleum, lawn ,
Maybe getting out of a car on the greasey pavement?
Hell whip out a sponge or something.

Ah, the de-waxing thing, these stumblers had the stuff dissolved in mostly water, with a bit of alcohol and acetone mixed in, from what I could tell.
It was very slow to filter with a 5" diameter buchner, medium fine paper, and a 30 on the vacuum gauge,(don't know if it is pounds or mmHg), it was doing some sucking. The vacuum pump has dual cylinders hooked up in tandem, the flow rate was at a whopping 0.1 liters/minute.
Usually the flow rate is 3 liters/minute. Typically filtering is like flushing a toilet, the stuff floods through, it will filter a reaction mixture 4-6 times in a few minutes. The one hang up is wax, does not take much to plug the paper.

However, like a sand filter, by allowing the fillers to accumulate to several inches depth in the buchner, helped trap and hold the wax. The remaining wax was water soluble, the addition of lye made the E a freebase(oil soluble), and the wax stayed in the lye water and was flushed.
It did take longer than an hour to filter.
all the crud, more like three hours.

The non-polar was Pyroil starting fluid from Valvoline containing ethyl ether, heptane, and hexane. I believe you are familiar with this! Seemed to work well, the E freebase was a massive white gloppy sludge that sat on the bottom of the ether layer. The freebase was hit with large amounts of HCl until the E dissolved into the d-water layer, this is what was evaporated, to yield the salt E-HCl.
After yanking out 15 ozs, tasting the pill powder indicates there is more E in it.

80 grams of the E was run off to see how well it would react, returning 55 grams of tip-top M.

The last bit of arcane knowledge about de-waxing, I had to change my thinking and came to the conclusion that the bitter contaminant found in meth the HABB&BF(Heat Activated Bitter Brown & Black Funk)
iodo and or chloro ephedrine
The prior reaction was a dismal fuck-up.
a 100 gms E, 35 gms of lousy returned
the M was of relatively poor quality go-go, Strong but a touch of bitterness, unsavory,(iodoephedrine not the salt)

I am sure the reason it was bitter was because the reaction was rushed(30 mins), and excess heat was applied. Breaking a bond somewhere on the E molecule, and/or trapping I- or Cl- on a carbon.

dwarfer
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posted 11-10-1999 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dwarfer     
I knew eventually you would answer my question about your experience with starting ether as NP: just like a Wizard: stealing ideas from all directions and

nevermind, professional jealosy.

I was wondering also if you had ever tried the KRZ saturate boiling isopropyl and put in freezer technique: souns like JUST the thing to get rid of a LOT of crap that makes it through otherwise.

Regards:

dwrfer

FMAN
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posted 11-10-1999 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FMAN     
Worlock,

Maybe they umm did the [thing] on it and removed a chunk of the stuff from the sound of it? Could be they used the method I considered, and the resultant was removed for to cut the final product A010

Worlock
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posted 11-12-1999 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Worlock     
FMAN
very clever point you make there, I never think of adding cut, it is always of purifying,
and how to remove epehdrine is my goal, not how to add it back in.
The more I consider it, the wiser your postulate seems. As these are fairly smart people acting a little too dumb. Con-artists supreme.
One other point I weighed each boittle of I2 and each bottle was missing 1/2 an oz.
I weighed the RP the supposed 1.5 pounds was actually only nine ounces,
Where I'll get even, is they were poor at extracting the E and I will get way over the anticipated 450 grams.


Dwarfer,
I only steal your ideas,you know the ones you borrow from someone else and forget to return.
The KZR method of saturating the hot alcohol then freezer it? not yet, soon.
What 99% isopropyl or will 70% work ok?
will methanol work also? I guess it will.
Are you leaving it over night?

I have a facvorite that uses methanol, and produces the fluffiest ever. Works on ephedrine and meth.
Saturate methanol with E or methamphetamine,
Actually I take some E or M and add a little hot methanol to it, leaving some of the E or M still undissolved, can't get more saturated than that, Then in a large flask add 5 x the volume of cold(freezer cold) acetone, add acetone until if forms a precipitate, filter this immediately cold and you have the whitest, fluffiest, powderey stuff you will ever see, very nice.
The mechanism is simple the E and M are not soluble in acetone. By adding cold acetone you cool and dilute the saturated methanol solution, such that it will not hold anything, the E or M form a volumous precipitate immediately.

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